Comments on: Start with social networks or PPC? http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/ CDF Networks - Pay Per Click and Affiliate Blog Tue, 06 Dec 2011 11:43:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Start with social networks or PPC? | CDF Networks - Affiliate … http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-24376 Start with social networks or PPC? | CDF Networks - Affiliate … Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:13:05 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-24376 [...] read the full article Categories : Google Adwords Comments [...] [...] read the full article Categories : Google Adwords Comments [...]

]]> By: Chad http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-23155 Chad Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:48:35 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-23155 Ron, I appreciate your thoughtful response. You make some great points. I do however have to totally disagree with your comment that social media is not beatable with PPC. I have seen the direct opposite many times, PPC is so much bigger in scope and sheer volume when done right. Of course like everything it varies with the niche so its hard to generalize. Ron, I appreciate your thoughtful response. You make some great points.

I do however have to totally disagree with your comment that social media is not beatable with PPC. I have seen the direct opposite many times, PPC is so much bigger in scope and sheer volume when done right. Of course like everything it varies with the niche so its hard to generalize.

]]> By: Affiliate Marketing Guy Ron Davies http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-23118 Affiliate Marketing Guy Ron Davies Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:05:03 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-23118 I have to say that it always shocks me to see veterans recommending PPC to novices. I have to wonder how this could be a good idea? Experts estimate that less than 15% of Adwords users are profitable, and under an estimated 19% on Yahoo for the same. PPC is NOT the place for inexperienced advertisers to cut teeth. Social media can be done by a monkey in 24 hours, PPC takes an expert months to get any good at. I have seen guys selling PPC secrets on video for hundreds of dollars that I know from the inside were losing campaigns. Some losing big time. Now, Yahoo is a stronger bet than Google, but the fact is that is because Google's business model is better designed than Yahoo's IMHO, and Google has built in a very high expected attrition rate - by all estimations a 30% /month attrition they would not even feel. Stick to where it works every time, Social media is not beatable with PPC, never was, and never will be. At very least go social media first, and augment with PPC if need be. I have reviewed literally thousands of landing pages through the perspective eyes of a Google bot, and maybe saw 15 or 20 that were optimized for minimum cost per click with maximum conversion and ROI. Great stuff! Ron I have to say that it always shocks me to see veterans recommending PPC to novices. I have to wonder how this could be a good idea? Experts estimate that less than 15% of Adwords users are profitable, and under an estimated 19% on Yahoo for the same.

PPC is NOT the place for inexperienced advertisers to cut teeth. Social media can be done by a monkey in 24 hours, PPC takes an expert months to get any good at. I have seen guys selling PPC secrets on video for hundreds of dollars that I know from the inside were losing campaigns. Some losing big time.

Now, Yahoo is a stronger bet than Google, but the fact is that is because Google’s business model is better designed than Yahoo’s IMHO, and Google has built in a very high expected attrition rate – by all estimations a 30% /month attrition they would not even feel.

Stick to where it works every time, Social media is not beatable with PPC, never was, and never will be.

At very least go social media first, and augment with PPC if need be. I have reviewed literally thousands of landing pages through the perspective eyes of a Google bot, and maybe saw 15 or 20 that were optimized for minimum cost per click with maximum conversion and ROI.

Great stuff!

Ron

]]> By: Kurt Henninger http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-21143 Kurt Henninger Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:44:38 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-21143 I agree with the comment about starting with PPC. PPC forces you to understand fundamentals or you will be out of the game very quickly. Unfortunately, I see many who go the Facebook/MySpace route quickly, and all they become good at is spamming. I agree with the comment about starting with PPC. PPC forces you to understand fundamentals or you will be out of the game very quickly. Unfortunately, I see many who go the Facebook/MySpace route quickly, and all they become good at is spamming.

]]> By: browie http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-21033 browie Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:25:32 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-21033 I agree with you there are stories everywhere about how so and so made x amount their first try. I would also suggest using google content to start because you can target your main keyword and have it spread out over the net. I agree with you there are stories everywhere about how so and so made x amount their first try. I would also suggest using google content to start because you can target your main keyword and have it spread out over the net.

]]> By: gregsdca http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-21023 gregsdca Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:47:00 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-21023 Alright, you have me convinced. I heading over to start a campaign in Yahoo. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks. Alright, you have me convinced. I heading over to start a campaign in Yahoo. I’ll let you know how it goes. Thanks.

]]> By: ppcer http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-21021 ppcer Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:28:17 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-21021 Couldn't have said it better chad. Google search advertising is best place to be in both in terms of traffic and conversions. Thou its hard but once you can get something going, you cna pretty much float from there on. I started doing PPC on google in 2007. it wasn't until mid 2008, i got something in return. Now, its my #1 ad platform. Couldn’t have said it better chad. Google search advertising is best place to be in both in terms of traffic and conversions. Thou its hard but once you can get something going, you cna pretty much float from there on. I started doing PPC on google in 2007. it wasn’t until mid 2008, i got something in return. Now, its my #1 ad platform.

]]> By: Tip Jar http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/comment-page-1/#comment-21008 Tip Jar Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:55:10 +0000 http://www.cdfnetworks.com/start-with-social-networks-or-ppc/#comment-21008 lol, I fall into the category of the last paragraph. I started with Myspace Ads and have had success (luck) with them. Although since I have not yet started with PPC, I'm really anxious to. Although finding time and startup capital is the main problem. lol, I fall into the category of the last paragraph. I started with Myspace Ads and have had success (luck) with them.

Although since I have not yet started with PPC, I’m really anxious to. Although finding time and startup capital is the main problem.

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